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Adverse entailment established
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1Passage and issue
Passage
Issue
The received text and current SBLGNT both begin with the contrary-to-fact “if ye had known me”; their variations concern the following verb forms and connectives.
Variant class
Omission / addition
2Textus Receptus
Greek reading
“If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
Authorized Version
The Authorized Version rendering has not yet been entered in the structured field.
Edition note
The Research Center uses the received Greek text underlying the Authorized Version as its baseline; edition-specific differences are recorded when the variation unit requires them.
Historical annotation witness
Erasmus’s Annotationes
Erasmus’s printed Greek text, his Latin annotation, and the Research Center’s evaluation are distinct evidence. Each edition remains separately identified because Erasmus revised the Annotationes across his five editions.
Not yet assessed. No inference about Erasmus’s silence has been made. A Latin annotation and translation will appear here only after an edition and exact locus have been verified.
The Erasmus annotation audit has not yet been completed for this locus. Do not infer from this status that Erasmus was silent.
Westminster and Dutch annotation witnesses
Westminster Annotations
Not yet assessed. No inference from silence is made.
Dutch Annotations
Not yet assessed. No inference from silence is made.
3NA28 baseline and critical-text rationale
NA28 baseline reading
The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”
Translation or explanation
The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”
Metzger’s report of the UBS committee
Metzger reports the UBS4 committee's treatment of 2 variation units within this record's range. The notes ground the relevant decisions in scribal harmonization to a parallel passage; the printed confidence rating represented here is {C}. This is a controlled synopsis rather than a quotation.
Locator: Bruce M. Metzger, A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, 2nd ed., notes on John 14:7, 14:7
ECM / CBGM evidence and editors
No passage-specific ECM/CBGM editorial explanation is attached to this record. Official method sources describe the CBGM as a set of coherence procedures, not a decision-maker: editors define variation units and local stemmata and evaluate pre-genealogical, genealogical, and stemmatic coherence together with transcriptional, intrinsic, and other philological evidence.
4UBS6 and intended NA29 revision
UBS6 retains the NA28 / UBS5 Greek main-text wording in John, so no main-text change is shown for this passage. The separate project ledger covers Acts, Mark, and Revelation.
No change row is attached to this passage.
UBS6 is published, and the German Bible Society identifies its Greek main text as identical to the intended NA29 main text. The complete NA29 volume and its apparatus remain forthcoming. Project-ledger rows retain their source and verification statements until they are checked against the published UBS6 text and, when available, the NA29 apparatus.
5Doctrinal and four-point analysis
Effect class
Exegetical or interpretive consequence
Exact proposition affected
No single doctrinal proposition is directly changed; the principal consequence is exegetical, historical, or cumulative.
Doctrinal analysis
Exegetical or interpretive consequence. The record does not establish that the variant by itself removes an entire Christian doctrine; explicit wording, exegesis, and cumulative testimony must be distinguished.
Bahnsen four-point examination
Arbitrariness
At John 14:7, the critical choice avoids arbitrariness only to the extent that it states public manuscript, transcriptional, and intrinsic grounds. Editorial status: Preliminary record accepted for staging; independent review remains pending. They belong in a complete apparatus but should not be projected onto every modern critical text. The editorial question is a cluster of related tense and lexical forms, not a binary replacement of past with present.
Inconsistency
The criteria used at John 14:7 must be applied to comparable readings as well. A principle such as age, difficulty, brevity, or coherence cannot be decisive here and quietly reversed elsewhere merely to escape a historical, grammatical, or theological difficulty.
Consequences
Exegetical or interpretive consequence: No single doctrinal proposition is directly changed; the principal consequence is exegetical, historical, or cumulative.
Preconditions of intelligibility
The argument presupposes stable authorship, meaningful language, objective logical norms, transmissible evidence, and a coherent account of how Scripture can be received and identified by the church. The analysis tests whether the method can make those conditions intelligible without reducing the text to an indefinitely revisable editorial construct.
This framework examines an argument and its conditions; it does not claim to read an editor's private motives.
6Argument for the received reading
External and historical evidence
Some witnesses do preserve present or perfect alternatives, which explains how the title entered variant lists. Here the well-known Authorized Version opening is also the opening printed in the SBLGNT.
Internal and transcriptional evidence
The supposed choice between “if ye had known” and “if ye know” does not describe the current principal editions.
Reception and ecclesiastical use
The received text repeats a form of ginōskō with the counterfactual particle: “you would have known my Father also.”
Providential-preservation analysis
Providential preservation is not used as a substitute for evidence at John 14:7. It supplies the confessional context in which manuscript transmission, broad reception, and the church's actual possession of Scripture are evaluated together.
Canonical coherence with the rest of Scripture
Canonical coherence remains an explicit test: a proposed reading must make grammatical and theological sense within the immediate context and the rest of Scripture. No conflict is asserted merely because two editions differ; the claimed incoherence must be demonstrated at this passage.
Canonical-coherence verdict
The Authorized Version is retained where its representation of the TR forms a coherent reading within the immediate context and the rest of Scripture. Any competing form must demonstrate an equal or better canonical fit rather than merely invoke an edition or method label.
Response to the principal critical argument
Editorial status: Preliminary record accepted for staging; independent review remains pending. They belong in a complete apparatus but should not be projected onto every modern critical text. The editorial question is a cluster of related tense and lexical forms, not a binary replacement of past with present.
Conclusion
The apparent tension in Jesus’ words is intentional. The disciples have truly encountered the Father in the Son, yet they have not understood that knowledge adequately. “From henceforth” marks the disclosure being pressed upon them and the events about to reveal it. Philip’s request in verse 8 immediately shows how much remains to be learned.
The received sentence is grammatical, searching, and fully consonant with the discourse. It should stay. The larger lesson for textual discussion is equally plain: comparison must be made against actual editions, not inherited summaries. Here the well-known Authorized Version opening is also the opening printed in the SBLGNT.
Logical entailment
The Authorized Version serves as the faithful English representation. The preservation claim applies immediately to the authentic Hebrew and Greek texts—not to an English translation as though it were the inspired source.
Canonical-status rule: Physical printing is not canonical inclusion. If an edition prints a passage in double brackets while judging it secondary or non-original, it disagrees with the received text concerning the identity and extent of inspired Scripture.
Status: Established
Immediate textual or doctrinal consequence
At John 14:7, the received text reads “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.” and its Authorized Version representation reads . The assessed critical reading is “The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”. The immediate consequence is that the critical text no longer states the received wording at this locus. The immediate local effect is exegetical or interpretive; this argument does not claim that a distinct Christian doctrine disappears from the verse.
Necessary reasoning chain
- At John 14:7, the received Hebrew/Greek form is “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”; the Authorized Version represents it as . The assessed critical form is “The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”.
- The received and critical forms are not the same at this locus. Therefore, if the competing critical form is original, the received form is secondary rather than the authentic wording at this place. The immediate consequence is: At John 14:7, the received text reads “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.” and its Authorized Version representation reads . The assessed critical reading is “The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”. The immediate consequence is that the critical text no longer states the received wording at this locus. The immediate local effect is exegetical or interpretive; this argument does not claim that a distinct Christian doctrine disappears from the verse.
- If the received form at this place is secondary rather than original, then the authentic Hebrew/Greek text was not kept pure at this place in the received textual tradition; therefore the unqualified confessional preservation claim must be denied or redefined.
Ultimate preservation consequence
If the competing reading is original and the received reading is secondary, then God did not preserve and keep pure the authentic text at this place in the received textual tradition. The unqualified confessional claim that Scripture was kept pure in all ages must therefore be denied or redefined.
Sources
- Westminster Confession of Faith (1647)Chapter 1, section 8 — Governing confessional preservation claim
- F. H. A. Scrivener, The New Testament in the Original Greek according to the Text followed in the Authorized VersionReceived Greek reading
- German Bible Society — UBS6 publications and relation to NA29Current critical-edition, ECM, or editorial documentation
- German Bible Society — The Sixth Edition of the Greek New TestamentCurrent critical-edition, ECM, or editorial documentation
- INTF — Online Tools for the ECMCurrent critical-edition, ECM, or editorial documentation
Read the full research essay and its sources
Passage: John 14:7
Received reading: “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.”
Principal competing reading: The SBLGNT likewise reads “if you had known me” but varies the second verb and the transition to “from now on.”
Editorial status: Preliminary record accepted for staging; independent review remains pending.
The supposed choice between “if ye had known” and “if ye know” does
not describe the current principal editions. Scrivener and the SBLGNT
both begin with the pluperfect egnōkeite: “if you had known
me.” The disciples’ deficient knowledge of Jesus explains their
deficient knowledge of the Father.
The next verb does vary. The received text repeats a form of
ginōskō with the counterfactual particle: “you would have known
my Father also.” The SBLGNT uses a form of oida, another common
verb for knowing. It then moves to “from now on you know him and have
seen him,” with smaller differences in conjunctions and pronouns.
Some witnesses do preserve present or perfect alternatives, which
explains how the title entered variant lists. They belong in a complete
apparatus but should not be projected onto every modern critical text.
The editorial question is a cluster of related tense and lexical forms,
not a binary replacement of past with present.
The apparent tension in Jesus’ words is intentional. The disciples
have truly encountered the Father in the Son, yet they have not
understood that knowledge adequately. “From henceforth” marks the
disclosure being pressed upon them and the events about to reveal it.
Philip’s request in verse 8 immediately shows how much remains to be
learned.
The received sentence is grammatical, searching, and fully consonant
with the discourse. It should stay. The larger lesson for textual
discussion is equally plain: comparison must be made against actual
editions, not inherited summaries. Here the well-known Authorized
Version opening is also the opening printed in the SBLGNT.
Sources and further reading
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- Record
- VAR-2188
- Status
- Preliminary
- Version
- 1.1-dossier
- Review
- Level B — Editorial synthesis
- Editor
- Chris Thomas
- Reviewer
- Independent reviewer pending assignment
- First date
- 1st century · Date Range
- Last revised
- 2026-07-22
Evidence and editorial controls
- Verification
- Passage, principal readings, and stated editorial comparison checked against Scrivener’s received Greek text and the current SBLGNT text and apparatus; exhaustive manuscript collation remains open. Metzger commentary entries were matched by exact passage where present; ECM/CBGM rationale is passage-specific only when an official editorial explanation is cited. Ledger rows are identified as UBS6 / intended NA29 data but retain their row-level verification caveats pending direct collation.
- Rights and access
- Original editorial synthesis. Biblical readings are short scholarly quotations; cited editions and digital witnesses retain their stated rights and access conditions.
- Known limitations
- This staging record summarizes the principal variation unit and representative evidence. It is not a fresh collation of every extant manuscript, version, lectionary, or patristic citation.
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Chris Thomas, “John 14:7 — “If Ye Had Known Me” or “If Ye Know Me”? Knowing the Father through the Son,” VAR-2188, Confessional Bibliology Research Center, version 1.0-staging, last revised 2026-07-22.
Revision history
- — Chris Thomas