The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.7

By | 2017-10-12T00:24:51+00:00 October 12th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. VII.

Of the Manuscript of Berlin.

‘Tis here no longer that same Mr. Emlyn, who has been silent with regard to the Manuscripts mention’d in the Preface to the Louvain doctors, and that which F. Amelette affirm’d he saw at Rome; ’tis quite another thing when we come to the Manuscript of Berlin. Mr. Emlyn has here outdone himself; he is in ecstasies and triumph. Yet it costs him somewhat dear; an acknowledgment […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.6

By | 2017-10-11T23:31:08+00:00 October 11th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. VI.

A Defence of the Manuscripts of Robert Stephens against certain Manuscripts produced from the Library of the King of France, which are pretended to be the same that Stephens used in his Editions.

THE proof which all those who have wrote before me upon this subject have drawn from the Editions of Robert Stephens, and which I have us’d after ’em, for the authentickness of the Text […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.5

By | 2017-10-06T04:39:13+00:00 October 5th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. V.

Of the obelus plac’d in the middle of the 7th Verse, There are three in heaven, &c. of the Manuscripts mention’d by the Divines of Louvain, and of that which F. Amelotte says he saw at Rome.

WE have seen that among the Manuscripts of Robert Stephens there were found seven, in which the passage of St. John was not entire, for they wanted these words εν τω ουρανω i.e. in […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.4

By | 2017-10-12T15:57:24+00:00 October 5th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin|

Of Robert Stephen’s Manuscripts

WE have seen in the foregoing Chapter the extreme perplexity in which Mr. Simon arid Mr. Emlyn are found with reference to the Manuscripts of Complutum and Erasmus; they could not extricate themselves but by denying that the passage of St. John was in any of these Manuscripts. The difficulty is considerably augmented by the Manuscripts of Robert Stephens: but here again ’tis the same refuge; they have no other; […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.3

By | 2017-10-05T18:32:18+00:00 October 5th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. III.

The passage of St. John proved to be genuine from the Greek Manuscripts with some particular considerations upon the Manuscripts of Laurentius Valla, upon that of Complutum, and that of England or the Codex Britannicus.

IT would be very surprizing that two of the three parts of the Christian World, namely, Europe and Africk, should have constantly had in St. John’s Epistle the Text which speaks of the Father, the Son, […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.2

By | 2017-10-05T17:43:42+00:00 October 5th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. II.

Of the first Greek Editions, in which the Text of the three witnesses in heaven is read, and of those in which this Text is not inserted.

Before I come to speak of the Greek Manuscripts which serve to defend the truth of the passage of St. John, I think it will not be amiss to make some observations upon the first Greek Editions of the New Testament with relation to […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 2.1

By | 2017-10-05T17:33:43+00:00 October 5th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

PART the SECOND.

In which, the passage of St. John’s Epistle, There are three in heaven, &c. is prov’d to be genuine from the Greek Copies, and the use of the Greek Church.

CHAP. I.

That the two ancient Latin Versions, the Italick and the Vulgate of St. Jerom, are a proof that the disputed passage was in the Greek Copies.

THE Italick Version being the most ancient […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.10

By | 2017-09-29T05:11:23+00:00 September 29th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. X.

What judgment must be passed upon the Latin of the Vulgate of St. Jerom, which have not the Text of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.

WERE we so happy as to have the Manuscripts of the Bible which had pass’d under St. Jerom’s eyes, or only the Manuscripts which had been made very near the time that ancient Clergyman was upon his revise, we might clear up very […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.9

By | 2017-09-29T05:11:54+00:00 September 29th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

CHAP. IX.

That the Text of the three witnesses, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one, was always in St. Jerom’s Version.

MR. Emlyn does not deny but this Text has been in the Manuscripts of the Latin Bibles since the time of Charles the Great, who liv’d at the close of the eighth Century; the testimonies I have produc’d have not left him the least room […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.8

By | 2017-09-29T05:12:20+00:00 September 29th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin|

C H A P. VIII.

Of the judgment St. Jerom has made of this Text, in his Prologue to the seven Catholick Epistles

‘Tis impossible but that St. Jerom must have seen in the Italick Version a Text which Tertullian and St. Cyprian had read there before him, and which all the world had seen there as well as they, and which the great numbers of Bishops who liv’d in the fame age with […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.7

By | 2017-09-29T05:10:59+00:00 September 27th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin, Preservationist Textual Criticism|

C H A P. VII.

Other quotations of the Italick Verston in favour of the passage in St. John’s Epistle, taken from two ancient Tracts, ascrib’d to St. Fulgentius.

ST. Fulgentius, Bishop of Ruspe in Africk, liv’d in those sorrowful times, when Arianism was upon the throne, and true Christianity very much persecuted. I have set down in my Dissertation two passages where this holy Bishop makes mention of the passage of St. […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.6

By | 2017-09-29T05:10:28+00:00 September 27th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, David Martin, Preservationist Textual Criticism|

CHAP. VI.

Containing some new reflexions upon the Profession of faith, which was presented to Huneric by the African Bishops.

IN speaking of Vigilius Bishop of Tapsum, and the frequent quotations he has made of the passage of St. John, I have had occasion to place with him the three or four hundred Bishops, who had inserted this triumphant Text into their Profession of faith; I have quoted in my Dissertation, and in the Examination […]

The Doctrinal Various Readings of the New Testament Greek

By | 2017-09-27T15:32:14+00:00 September 26th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, Textual Myths|Tags: , , , , |

Taken from R. L. Dabney’s Discussions p.350

THE magnificent work whose name stands last in this list may be said to complete a marked stage in the progress, or at least in the rotation, of the art of biblical criticism. It very properly suggests, not only some inquiry into the value and authority of the Sinai manuscript introduced to the learned world by Dr. Constantine Tischendorf, but a review and comparison of the present and […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.5

By | 2017-09-19T18:10:57+00:00 September 19th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin|

Other proofs that the Text of the witnesses in heaven was in the old Italick Version.

 

TO the age of St. Cyprian immediately succeeded that, in which St. Jerom flourish’d. The first Latin Version had already been made three hundred years, and in less time many faults must have crept into the Copies, which were continually dispers’d for the use of the Churches and private Persons. ‘Twas then a trade to transcribe […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.4

By | 2017-09-19T17:32:43+00:00 September 19th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin|

That the Text of the three witnesses in heaven was from the first Ages in the Italick Version., prov’d from the quotations of Tertullian and St. Cyprian.

IT is not from the MSS. themselves of the Italick Version, that we can know whether such or such a passage was in it j these MSS. have been lost for many ages: Time which consumes every thing, and carelessness in preserving them, not only in the […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.3

By | 2017-09-19T15:05:28+00:00 September 19th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin|

Of the nature of the proofs on which the genuineness of the Text of the three witnesses in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, must be established; and of the nullity of those, which are urg’d against it.

IT would be of no service, that these words contain’d the great and sublime notion of the Trinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in one only divine nature, if they did […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin 1.2

By | 2017-10-12T06:36:52+00:00 September 10th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin|

CHAP. II.

The Text of the three witnesses in heaven clear’d up, for the better understanding the importance and force of it, which were spoke of in the foregoing Chapter.

THE first thing, which here offers it self to be clear’d up, and which may create some difficulty in the minds of those persons, who rather seek for a pretence to doubt of the Text’s being genuine, than to be convinc’d of its […]

The Genuineness of 1 John 5.7 by David Martin Part 1

By | 2017-09-18T14:20:39+00:00 September 10th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, David Martin, Preservationist Textual Criticism|

This will be a 24-part series covering David Martin’s The Genuineness of the Text of the First Epistle of Saint John V.7

The 7th Verse of the Fifth Chap. of St. John’s first Epistle, There are three, S’c. prov’d to be genuine beyond all Exception, from the ancient Latin Bibles, the Quotations of the Fathers, the Testimony of the Greek Church, and lastly from an old Greek MS. of the New Testament in the Library […]

Edward Freer Hills on the Comma Johanneum

By | 2017-09-10T00:19:44+00:00 September 10th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Edward Freer Hills|

Excerpt from his book The King James Version Defended

3. The Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7)

In the Textus Receptus 1 John 5:7-8 reads as follows:

7 For there are three that bear witness IN HEAVEN, THE FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT: AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. 8 AND THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN EARTH, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

The words printed in capital […]

Francis Turretin and the Comma Johanneum

By | 2017-09-10T00:20:30+00:00 September 10th, 2017|Categories: Comma Johanneum|

Francis Turretin

& the Comma Johanneum

One of the claims going around the internet about Francis Turretin is that he would not have defended 1 John 5:7, commonly called the Comma Johanneum.  Below is a loose Google translation of the Disputatio Theological of Francis Turretin on the CJ made readable by William Sandell.  It is a regrettable oversite that this portion, part of his 4th volume, was not translated.

Of the three witnesses by […]

Follow Up: Codex Montfortianus, Erasmus, and 1 John 5:7

By | 2016-11-03T19:41:35+00:00 June 17th, 2016|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, Erasmus, Erasmus Myths, Greek Language, Post Slider on Main Page|Tags: , , , , , , |

In a previous article I addressed the issue of Codex Montfortianus and Erasmus and showed that the so called “British” Codex that Erasmus used could not be Codex Montfortianus.  I was pleased to find out that Dr. White responded to my article during his Dividing Line on June 16.  However, his comments were not as helpful as I had hoped.  He has completely missed the point of my post and did not address […]

NT Manuscripts Made to Order (Erasmus and I Jn5.7)

By | 2016-11-03T19:41:35+00:00 June 15th, 2016|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Erasmus, Erasmus Myths, Greek Language, history, Home Page Slider, Post Slider on Main Page, Textual Criticism|Tags: , , , , , |

It is commonly known that Erasmus did not include a large section of 1 John 5:7 in the 1st and 2nd Editions of his Greek New Testament.  This is the so called Comma Johanneum,  “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” (KJV) Despite being accepted as Scripture by Christians for millenia, Erasmus did not include it because he could not […]

Matthew Henry, Cyprian, & the Comma

By | 2016-11-03T19:41:35+00:00 June 14th, 2016|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Confessional Textual View, Home Page Slider, James White, Preservationist Textual Criticism|Tags: , , , |

Matthew Henry on the Comma Johanneum, Cyprian, Thomas Aquinas, and the Complutensian Polyglot

This post originated from a meme and a post in the Confessional Bibliology Facebook group and from the claim of a popular evangelical that Cyprian did not quote 1 John 5:7.  This post also has the added benefit of dealing with the claim made online, in response to my previous post A Short Response to James White, that the […]

Erasmian Myths: The Comma Wager

By | 2017-04-02T10:01:18+00:00 March 2nd, 2016|Categories: Comma Johanneum, Erasmus, Erasmus Myths, history, James White, Textual Criticism|Tags: , , |

Erasmian Myths

This year marks the 500th anniversary of the publication of Erasmus Greek New Testament and his Latin translation.  And next week at Houston Baptist University there will be a conference on Erasmus and his work.  In light of this, I present the following 4 post series on the biggest myths about Erasmus.  If you listened to evangelical promoters of textual criticism, then you’ve probably heard a few, if not all […]